I still haven't been given my Jan 15! I've been asking for it for about 6 weeks now. Must find out what the problem is. I don't see what right they have to withold it from me.
Sounds like it'll make interesting reading...
Amha·aret
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Dec 15th & Jan 15 Watchtowers - change of thought?
by dozy injust been having a flick through the dec 15 & jan 15 jw only watchtowers.
(and no - i dont know how to pdf them or anything else!).
unusually there isnt a single mention glorifying the fads - in fact , jehovahs channel or any other similar expression isnt referenced at all (other than a single scriptural reference in the review of revelation in the dec 15th issue.).
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My marriage is falling apart!
by sacolton inover breakfast, my wife and i discussed the feeling of distance between us.
i haven't kept her for going to meetings or anything of the sort.
yet, since i've left the organization - she has been more distant from me.
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Amha·aret
I can totally understand why your wife is angry. When I was in a position similar to where she is now, I felt a lot of anger. I also felt betrayed because I had done the right thing of "marrying only in the Lord" and then Gladring left. So I was married to an unbeliever even though I'd married a believer. Very unfair, I felt.
The comments of the ladies who've posted on this thread has hopefully given you some insight on how your wife feels. Use this. Go to her and say, "Honey (or whatever pet name you call her), I know me leaving the JWs has been and is really tough for you. I know you must feel angry/hurt/betrayed etc. I get that and I'm here for you if you wanna talk about it at some stage." That will make her feel acceptance from you and also allows her to be the one to chose when and if to talk about it in more detail.
Quandry said
You must slowly erode the hold they have over her. If you challenge directly, she will dig in her heels. Go the opposite way. Clean up while she is gone to meetings. Make it more pleasant to be home with you. Little things, like some wildflowers or just a piece of candy on the pillow will show her you care.
I totally agree with this. Gladring used to do a lot of chores when I was at the meeting and it meant I had no choice but to be in a good hunour when I got back! Going to the meeting alone and sitting thru it like a single person or someone with a UBM was very difficult and did often put me in a very bad mood. But when I came home and Gladring was happy and the house looked well, then the mood lifted and didn't carry on.
HTH
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My marriage is falling apart!
by sacolton inover breakfast, my wife and i discussed the feeling of distance between us.
i haven't kept her for going to meetings or anything of the sort.
yet, since i've left the organization - she has been more distant from me.
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Amha·aret
Hubby Gladring left several months before I did and it did affect our marraige for a while. Him "leaving the tuth" made me more resolute to go the all the meetings and not miss ministry etc just like your wife is now doing. That's because of the whole "won without a word" notion. Our actions are meant to bring our husbands back to their senses ie the meetings. I know its hard but try to put yourself in her mindset. You know deep down she's only doing what she's been told is the right thing to do.
The consellor will hopefully be helpful to fixing the problems. But in the meantime, is there any way the two of you could have a good heart to heart talk? The problem probably is a lack of mutual understanding as it was in our case. I really didn't understand why Gladring was doing and saying all he was so we talked about it in a way that didn't make me defensive about my faith. It was tough, we both had to work hard to be able to stick with the conversation but it really was the turning ponint for us because I finally understood him and things improved hugely between us after that, though I still didn't leave the JWs for about 6 months after that.
Give it a shot. Sounds like you really want this to work so do all in your power to make this happen. And remember the Dr Phil line, the only person you can change is you. Don't focus on what changes she needs to make, just do what you can to improve the situation.
Positive thoughts for you.
Am
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fun for the territory servant or those who watch him....
by oompa inomg...so if people helped this happen...we would be fulfiling bible prophecy!
but this make me also think....that as a kid in datroof especialy....i soooo loved ice or snow or power outage or anything that cancelled a meeting or sat.
service day.....oh how i wanted to see cartoons....and happy days.............dammmit.............oompa
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Amha·aret
The beauty of this idea is that if you get enough people to become DNCs, then the other people are going to be called on far more often, possibly even twice as often if the numbers of DNCs go up substantially. So before long they get sick of being called on so often and they also become DNCs and so on and so on.
The finish of the preaching work!
And then the end will come....
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What is this smiley doing?
by Amha·aret in.
i can't figure out if he's laughing, snoring or sneezing!
any ideas?.
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Amha·aret
Hi W 007,
One on the (few) advantages of being a sister is not having to look down at all those bored zombie faces! I only had to look at just one aka a householder!
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What is this smiley doing?
by Amha·aret in.
i can't figure out if he's laughing, snoring or sneezing!
any ideas?.
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Hi Cognac,
Glad to know its not just me who was confused!
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What is this smiley doing?
by Amha·aret in.
i can't figure out if he's laughing, snoring or sneezing!
any ideas?.
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Amha·aret
I can't figure out if he's laughing, snoring or sneezing!
Any ideas?
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TMS - Theocratic Ministry School, The Masonry Society
I like that one. Very funny and really not too far from the truth!
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Anybody have a scan of the November 2008 Kingdom Ministry?
by JimmyPage inif so please post.
thanks!
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Amha·aret
I think yknot posted it on a thread a week or so back. Try a quick search and you might find it.
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Calling on an old RV
by Gladring inmy husband and i were just talking at dinner about people we have called on or studied with.
some people i really liked, but it was clear that bringing them in the truth was like pushing a rope uphill.
we had a little chuckle that they were smarter than we were all along.
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Have you ever seen the youtube clips under the title of "Sorry I knocked on your door" or something like that? Its a bunch of xjws apologising for the "ministry" they did. Well, I prefer the more personal approach of calling back on those who knew something we didn't at the time. I felt better after doing it and I know that the lady in question was relieved also.
Hope you call on that person DoomVoyager. Let us know how it goes if you do.